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For example, blue decks in Pauper use Thought Scour and Mental Note to power out Tolarian Terror and Cryptic Serpent, while Vintage Dredge decks use cards like Prized Amalgam and Vengevine to flood the board with creatures from the graveyard

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If it enters with counters, those counters are included

Each version of this effect generally comes with another upside of its own

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